Feb 14 th being celebrated across the world as Valentine’s day. However this day 14th Feb 2010 has gone into in Telangana history as black day. In response to certain Telangana politicians betrayal to its own people, Osmania students procession became to tool for police brutality. Osmania students who are fighting for just and righteous cause, sacrificing their future for the fellow brethren had to face worst police brutality in the history of AP .It was very shameful act of AP Police (is there any AP police or it is just Andhra police?) as observed by honorable high court of AP.This marathon brutality continued for around 6 hours leaving many fellow Telanganites worried and helpless. Many citizens also questioned themselves that are we in civilized country? Are we in police state that is answerable to none?
Police brutality:
As I was watching it on the TV well away from the sanctum sanctorum of Telangana - Osmania Arts College, I felt like my fellow Telanganites, incapacitated to do anything to save my compatriots from police brutality. Students were running helter-skelter to avoid the rubber bullets and teargas effect. Police were not leaving them, if their intension were right to just control the law and order they should have left the scene there and then. The police force headed by Andhra walas have different scheme of things in mind. So that is the reason they corned all the students into one hostel .Police went inside hostel and used force after blinding them with teargas. They not even left the students who are studying in the hostel rooms. They did not leave even girls.Policie brutality gone beyond the students-they attacked the media which is beacon of hope in the absence of civility from the police.
As pointed out by Honorable high court ,AP police headed by “General Dyers” thought that herding the media out not to cover the incident would give them free hand to implement the ANDHRA police brutality devised in consultation with Andhra capitalist forces. I have seen on TV helpless students begging the Media persons to come little bit inside and cover the police brutality with the hope that outside world force may bring down the police whipping on them. Helpless students tried everything they could do stop it, finally give a warning to the police that if police won’t go back there would be mass suicides.
Outside the campus, helpless and anguished Telangana people started praying to the God almighty that please save the students from police brutality as they are fighting for justice and DHARMA. Prayers were answered at around 12 in the midnight. By then damage was done. Next day General dyer – Ramanjaneyulu with a feeling of accomplishment, for the satisfaction of his fellow Andhra vultures came out and addressed media shamelessly accusing the students for the incident.
Even in the British time ,as Honorurable high court pointed out, That General dyer was pulled up, however Indian general dyer- Mr .Ramajaneyulu was shamelessly backed by Andhra Government. The only difference to the Jallianwala bagh of India to Jallianwala bagh of south India is there were no deaths here. There is bigger death happened – death of democracy. If this police brutality is not questioned this time by all democratic forces in this country then this Andhra vultures have all plans in force to repeat Jallianwala bagh in Osmania University ywt again and again .
Thursday, February 18, 2010
Saturday, February 13, 2010
Isn’t “Telugu Talli” a fictitious work?
It is well accepted fact that people in creative world do take artistic liberty to come up with obnoxious attributes to eulogize the subject of interest. Some gentlemen equate subject with god, other with mother, some other with women and other with nature. This they do just to satisfy their artistic ego unmindful of the consequences of it; down the line. Telangana people understand this creative liberty better than anybody as a society we encourage it whole heartedly. This typical characteristic of Telangana society kept the “Folk Songs” alive in this part of India. It is also inherent part of Telangana society to “question the unquestionable”; if it thinks that certain thought process is not on sound footing. This is basic tenet of any genuine democratic society.
Here I am taking about Sankarambadi Sundaraachari artistic liberty in the form of “Maa Telugu Talli Ki….” had done much harm to Telangana society unintentionally. Telangana society that values the artist freedom of expression; has utmost respect for the gentlemen perse.However same society rejects the interpretation of his work by my dear Andhra friends to propagate their narrow minded ideology of expansionism (May I say clandestine expansionism) as Pundit Nehru observed well before my dear Andhra friends migrated to KukatPally or Vanstali Puram.You can refer my earlier post as how Telugu became a bane for Telangana society. Mr. Achari might not have ever thought in his wildest dreams that his work would be used by his fellow compatriots to disdain Telangana people. I am extremely sorry as I do not want to give how it harmed Telangana. There is enough literature and videos available in the public domain what Telangana society lost in the past 50 odd years. Even this site- SimplyTelangana.com itself is a repository of very good information.
I am wee bit fortunate to crisscross the great country called India for my studies and on job. This has given me a unique opportunity to peep into many other cultures. What I found is – We call “Mother India- Bharata Mata NO Hindi Mata”, In Karnataka they call it “Karnataka –Mata NO kannda Mata”. Even in the place notorious for its linguistic chauvinism- Tamil Nadu, worship the land as mother not language. Even in Europe where the linguistic chauvinism first started –never mentioned language as their mother. As I asked umpteen number of times in my writings and in personal interaction with learned Andhra friends, calling language as mother is it simply rhetoric? Or it is just an undercover to exploit the natural resources of Telangana?
Telangana society true to its character has questioned the rationale behind forcing them to accept “Telugu Talli” as any true democratic society does. Healthy debate was thwarted. As we all know how much respect my dear Andhra friends do have for democracy – seen on 10th dec09.Any society built on values welcomes the democratic debate. Instead of participating in healthy debate, my dear Andhra friends started saying Telangana people are disrespecting Telugu Talli? Telangana society realized the dubious intentions of Andhra friends. To counter the cultural invasion from Andhra, Telangana people have created “Telangana Talli”. Andhra friend may question if Telangana Talli is not a fictitious entity? Well, we all accept the fact that Telangana Talli is as fictitious as Telugu Talli. However Telangana Talli emerged out of the Telangana culture which is in tune with Indian culture for that matter world culture as I said earlier. Thus sanctity behind Telangana Talli is unquestionable. Here I want to know from my dear Andhra friend what are the reasons behind forcing so called “Telugu Talli” on us.
Dear Andhra friend
Based on what theory you called language as mother and created a fictitious mother and demanding us to respect it?
Where does your theory come from? Don’t you think it came out like a sparrow from P.C.Sarkar hat?
Which lineage does your theory share?
Don’t you think saying language is mother is an undercover?
Don’t you think saying language is mother is more to do with rhetoric than rationality?
Don’t you think saying language is mother and expecting others to fallow is not arrogance came out of illegal amassment of wealth?
My Dear vocal supporters of Telugu Talli, do you share the lineage of “Anti Navi” of AVATHAR fame?
Note: “Navi” fought against the exploitation of “Nature”. Andhra friends are trying to exploit the “Nature” of Telangana like opposite to “Navi”
P.S : Earlier post “What Telugu Means to Telanganite” questioned rationale behind the language based unification of the society. In response to that I was questioned why Telugu stands for “Looting” “Betryal”,”Violation agreements”. I did not elaborate the reasons for it. My fellow Telangana compatriots and also this website “SImplyTelangana.com” have explained umpteen numbers of times that Telangana case stands tall. Every reason that stands for Telangana also stands for my statement on Telugu. This is the precisely the reason why I did not dwell upon that much.
As usual friends, now the forum is thrown open to debate.
Here I am taking about Sankarambadi Sundaraachari artistic liberty in the form of “Maa Telugu Talli Ki….” had done much harm to Telangana society unintentionally. Telangana society that values the artist freedom of expression; has utmost respect for the gentlemen perse.However same society rejects the interpretation of his work by my dear Andhra friends to propagate their narrow minded ideology of expansionism (May I say clandestine expansionism) as Pundit Nehru observed well before my dear Andhra friends migrated to KukatPally or Vanstali Puram.You can refer my earlier post as how Telugu became a bane for Telangana society. Mr. Achari might not have ever thought in his wildest dreams that his work would be used by his fellow compatriots to disdain Telangana people. I am extremely sorry as I do not want to give how it harmed Telangana. There is enough literature and videos available in the public domain what Telangana society lost in the past 50 odd years. Even this site- SimplyTelangana.com itself is a repository of very good information.
I am wee bit fortunate to crisscross the great country called India for my studies and on job. This has given me a unique opportunity to peep into many other cultures. What I found is – We call “Mother India- Bharata Mata NO Hindi Mata”, In Karnataka they call it “Karnataka –Mata NO kannda Mata”. Even in the place notorious for its linguistic chauvinism- Tamil Nadu, worship the land as mother not language. Even in Europe where the linguistic chauvinism first started –never mentioned language as their mother. As I asked umpteen number of times in my writings and in personal interaction with learned Andhra friends, calling language as mother is it simply rhetoric? Or it is just an undercover to exploit the natural resources of Telangana?
Telangana society true to its character has questioned the rationale behind forcing them to accept “Telugu Talli” as any true democratic society does. Healthy debate was thwarted. As we all know how much respect my dear Andhra friends do have for democracy – seen on 10th dec09.Any society built on values welcomes the democratic debate. Instead of participating in healthy debate, my dear Andhra friends started saying Telangana people are disrespecting Telugu Talli? Telangana society realized the dubious intentions of Andhra friends. To counter the cultural invasion from Andhra, Telangana people have created “Telangana Talli”. Andhra friend may question if Telangana Talli is not a fictitious entity? Well, we all accept the fact that Telangana Talli is as fictitious as Telugu Talli. However Telangana Talli emerged out of the Telangana culture which is in tune with Indian culture for that matter world culture as I said earlier. Thus sanctity behind Telangana Talli is unquestionable. Here I want to know from my dear Andhra friend what are the reasons behind forcing so called “Telugu Talli” on us.
Dear Andhra friend
Based on what theory you called language as mother and created a fictitious mother and demanding us to respect it?
Where does your theory come from? Don’t you think it came out like a sparrow from P.C.Sarkar hat?
Which lineage does your theory share?
Don’t you think saying language is mother is an undercover?
Don’t you think saying language is mother is more to do with rhetoric than rationality?
Don’t you think saying language is mother and expecting others to fallow is not arrogance came out of illegal amassment of wealth?
My Dear vocal supporters of Telugu Talli, do you share the lineage of “Anti Navi” of AVATHAR fame?
Note: “Navi” fought against the exploitation of “Nature”. Andhra friends are trying to exploit the “Nature” of Telangana like opposite to “Navi”
P.S : Earlier post “What Telugu Means to Telanganite” questioned rationale behind the language based unification of the society. In response to that I was questioned why Telugu stands for “Looting” “Betryal”,”Violation agreements”. I did not elaborate the reasons for it. My fellow Telangana compatriots and also this website “SImplyTelangana.com” have explained umpteen numbers of times that Telangana case stands tall. Every reason that stands for Telangana also stands for my statement on Telugu. This is the precisely the reason why I did not dwell upon that much.
As usual friends, now the forum is thrown open to debate.
What Telugu (language) means to a Telanganite (me)?
Ever since Chidambaram’s announcement came out on 9th Dec 09 to initiate the process to create Telangana state, my dearest Andhra friends started saying that all Telugu should remain in one state. Perhaps that is the only time they are woken up to realize that there are Telugu speaking people in Telangana. Thank you Mr. Chiddu for waking my fellow Telugu. They in fact are running so-called united – Telugu movement ( or should I call it as moment as in fact it did last for just more than a moment). Since then, following questions have been puzzling me for quite some time.
What “Telugu” means to me?
Is language an ideology?
Is it a sin to share a language with others?
Is the language is unifying factor or dividing factor?
My quest for answers for all these queries with my learned friends and in literature available in the public domain, did not meet with much success. I commanded all my mental faculties to search for answers; I did find answers to most of them in solitude.
What “Telugu” means to me?
Telugu for me is “Suppression”
Telugu for me is “Looting”
Telugu for me is “Cheating”
Telugu for me is “Cultural invasion”.
Note: It is a myth that languages will have cultures. I feel places/regions will have culture.
Telugu for me is “Violation of agreements”
Telugu for me is “Mask”
Is language an ideology?
It is common knowledge that ideology keeps the flock together. Take capitalism, it unites some to become one group and communism brings other to form different group. From the days of nomads it is the common ideology that have brought people together. People of Telangana have been advocating that development, rightful use of resources, self rule, and fight against cultural invasion should decide the direction of the society. To sum up Telangana ideology is “Fight for rightful share and respect”. But my dear Andhra friend is conveniently ignoring all that and is saying “we speak one language” so we should remain in one state, so is Andhra wala effectively saying that “Language is an ideology”. Is it a buyable argument? Is it a rational argument?
Is it a sin to share a language with others?
Going by my Andhra friend’s argument that all Telugu should live in one state, I was made to feel incalculable times in recent times that is it a sin to have shared language with them? Had language not been shared, Telangana people would have been better off ? Sharing language with these Andhra people denied us rightful share in resources and also denied us right to live with respect. If this is the case, should we feel proud of the so called Italian of the east -Telugu?
Is language an unifying factor or a dividing factor?
To say frankly, it is none. It should not be one either. It is just an instrument to understand others view point. Uniting based on that and dividing based on that does not make any sense to any rational mind. Then why my dear Andhrawala is so much concerned about all Telugu to be in one state? Don’t you think there is other rational (or irrationalJ) reason behind this canting-United AP, United AP?
Dear Telangana compatriot, I am all for agreeing to disagree. Please post your answers to above queries.
What “Telugu” means to me?
Is language an ideology?
Is it a sin to share a language with others?
Is the language is unifying factor or dividing factor?
My quest for answers for all these queries with my learned friends and in literature available in the public domain, did not meet with much success. I commanded all my mental faculties to search for answers; I did find answers to most of them in solitude.
What “Telugu” means to me?
Telugu for me is “Suppression”
Telugu for me is “Looting”
Telugu for me is “Cheating”
Telugu for me is “Cultural invasion”.
Note: It is a myth that languages will have cultures. I feel places/regions will have culture.
Telugu for me is “Violation of agreements”
Telugu for me is “Mask”
Is language an ideology?
It is common knowledge that ideology keeps the flock together. Take capitalism, it unites some to become one group and communism brings other to form different group. From the days of nomads it is the common ideology that have brought people together. People of Telangana have been advocating that development, rightful use of resources, self rule, and fight against cultural invasion should decide the direction of the society. To sum up Telangana ideology is “Fight for rightful share and respect”. But my dear Andhra friend is conveniently ignoring all that and is saying “we speak one language” so we should remain in one state, so is Andhra wala effectively saying that “Language is an ideology”. Is it a buyable argument? Is it a rational argument?
Is it a sin to share a language with others?
Going by my Andhra friend’s argument that all Telugu should live in one state, I was made to feel incalculable times in recent times that is it a sin to have shared language with them? Had language not been shared, Telangana people would have been better off ? Sharing language with these Andhra people denied us rightful share in resources and also denied us right to live with respect. If this is the case, should we feel proud of the so called Italian of the east -Telugu?
Is language an unifying factor or a dividing factor?
To say frankly, it is none. It should not be one either. It is just an instrument to understand others view point. Uniting based on that and dividing based on that does not make any sense to any rational mind. Then why my dear Andhrawala is so much concerned about all Telugu to be in one state? Don’t you think there is other rational (or irrationalJ) reason behind this canting-United AP, United AP?
Dear Telangana compatriot, I am all for agreeing to disagree. Please post your answers to above queries.
Is Telangana baton passed on to muslim brothers?
For anybody who is observing the latest development pertaining to Telangana such as constitution of Committee headed by Justice Krishna and KCRs extending hand to Hyderabad Muslim by conducting many meetings finds that these two events are linked. If you observe clearly the composition of the committee in particular inclusion of Muslim scholar- Abu Saleh Shariff and Telangana Leadership meeting with the Hyderabad Muslims brothers needs to be seen through different prisim.Infact both are very much one consequent to other. Telangana leadership was fairly informed about the committee members well ahead. From my understanding of the situation is that, after learning this, Telangana leadership conducted some meetings with Hyderabad Muslims brothers. Even it was rumored that Prof Jaya sankar and KCR had tried hard to convince MIM to join JAC, MIM apparently discouraged their overtures.
Potential barrier?
Historical systemic negligence to Telangana by the Andhra community and the facts and figures relating to the economic and employment deprivation always do favor Telangana. Let there be any judge or any committee by anybody certainly will take decision in favor of the Telangana as Telangana people movement is based sound and undisputable facts and figures. It seems UPA govt is of late trying to see Telangana issue through communal angle. They have every right to do that.However, my only contention is, who would represent my Muslim brothers?. With whom this committee would talk to?. If it talks to Muslim Intelligentsia in Telangana then no issue but, if it talks only to MIM, then it is a potential barrier as MIM links with YSR family as it is known to everybody. Till date, MIM did not come up with any stand. I feel that MIM should see beyond Hyderabad and see how Hindu and Muslim brothers cohabitate in districts and villages. The kind of seamless integration happened outside Hyderabad cannot be ignored. My only worry is that these Hyderbad public school and London educated Asad bhai and Akbar Bhai would ever really know how hindu-mulsim live in districts and villages. I am here giving how Hindu and Muslim integration happened in Telangana. I wish it reaches Akbar and Asad bhai.
Seamless Integration of Hindu and Muslim communities
I wonder if Hindu-Muslim integration happened so well any other place in India as it happened in Telangana but I can categorically say that In Telangana it happened well before India became Independent. This fact was observed by MK Gandhi when he visited Hyderabad. In fact he said that this should become example for India.
Outside Telangana Hindus and Muslims may not be monolithic entity, Within Telangana they have always been a monolithic entity. With my own experience whenever I visit village I visit TEMPLE in the morning and DARGA in the evening. My mother prefers”KHAVALI” to any other. I do not have exact statistics but I feel that there are more DARGHAs in Telangana than anywhere in the country. I think Telangana is only the place where “Moharam” is celebrated by all communities across all places including the small remote villages. This tradition is kept alive by the weaker sections of Telangana. Kudos to them.
Not only the Integration happened within the societies and cultures this in fact went beyond that even the Telagana telugu imbibes roughly 30 to 40 % of Urdu in it. All in all I can only say that Telangana is classic example as how two communities can learn from each other and grow together.
I earnestly hope that my dear Muslim scholar on the board would acknowledges the Hindu-Muslim amity that woven into Telangana social fabric
Potential barrier?
Historical systemic negligence to Telangana by the Andhra community and the facts and figures relating to the economic and employment deprivation always do favor Telangana. Let there be any judge or any committee by anybody certainly will take decision in favor of the Telangana as Telangana people movement is based sound and undisputable facts and figures. It seems UPA govt is of late trying to see Telangana issue through communal angle. They have every right to do that.However, my only contention is, who would represent my Muslim brothers?. With whom this committee would talk to?. If it talks to Muslim Intelligentsia in Telangana then no issue but, if it talks only to MIM, then it is a potential barrier as MIM links with YSR family as it is known to everybody. Till date, MIM did not come up with any stand. I feel that MIM should see beyond Hyderabad and see how Hindu and Muslim brothers cohabitate in districts and villages. The kind of seamless integration happened outside Hyderabad cannot be ignored. My only worry is that these Hyderbad public school and London educated Asad bhai and Akbar Bhai would ever really know how hindu-mulsim live in districts and villages. I am here giving how Hindu and Muslim integration happened in Telangana. I wish it reaches Akbar and Asad bhai.
Seamless Integration of Hindu and Muslim communities
I wonder if Hindu-Muslim integration happened so well any other place in India as it happened in Telangana but I can categorically say that In Telangana it happened well before India became Independent. This fact was observed by MK Gandhi when he visited Hyderabad. In fact he said that this should become example for India.
Outside Telangana Hindus and Muslims may not be monolithic entity, Within Telangana they have always been a monolithic entity. With my own experience whenever I visit village I visit TEMPLE in the morning and DARGA in the evening. My mother prefers”KHAVALI” to any other. I do not have exact statistics but I feel that there are more DARGHAs in Telangana than anywhere in the country. I think Telangana is only the place where “Moharam” is celebrated by all communities across all places including the small remote villages. This tradition is kept alive by the weaker sections of Telangana. Kudos to them.
Not only the Integration happened within the societies and cultures this in fact went beyond that even the Telagana telugu imbibes roughly 30 to 40 % of Urdu in it. All in all I can only say that Telangana is classic example as how two communities can learn from each other and grow together.
I earnestly hope that my dear Muslim scholar on the board would acknowledges the Hindu-Muslim amity that woven into Telangana social fabric
Telangana Movement : Students Role
It is a widely accepted notion that students are no longer interested in nation building and that they lost interest in participating in democratic and just movements. In Andhra Pradesh , to be precise in Telangana something happened in contrast to widely accepted notion.
It was said that Students lost interest in the Telangan movement as they are concentrating on their careers. One political anaylist,C. Narasinha Rao, was opining in one of TV interview that there is no room for people movements in democracy.I really like to see him where he is hiding face.This is what happens when psychologist turns political anaylist.The very same people not noticed the fact that dormant feeling for separate state of Telangana exists in everybody only that they are waiting for right time.As it is known fact that you can take “Telangani out of Telangana but not Telangana out of Telangani”. It is evident form the many incidents that have happened over a period of past 50 years in India history.
In the contemporary Indian history I can recall two incidents where students were spearheading the people movements. First it was 5 years ago when UPA govt announced that there would be reservations in the post graduation of medical and engineering education.It is understandable that students were directly involving in the movement against reservation as it affects them directly. Primarily students from upper strata of the society have participated In that struggle.
Second is in recent past where students groups under the umbrella of JAC( Joint action Committee) spear headed the Telangana movement. Though it was for a very short time.The kind of maturity they have chosen it commendable. People from all strta of society participated in the movement keeping all the socio,politico differences aside.It is applaudable how they foxed the govt ,particularly when first they announced “Chalo Assembly” programme ,soon seeing police deployment they changed the same agitation name to “Peace Rally”. Telanganis have always been sided with oppressed to fight against the injustice,be it Telangana armed struggle against” Rajakars’ of Kashim rajvi or fighting against some oppressing social groups.
However as always Telangana people inlcuding the students could not manage to put across their point on national political and social scenario quite effectively as they do quite effectively at the state level.They should have used this oppurtunity to put Andhra peoples duplicity before the nation.It is refreshing to see how Mr KT Rao and Madhu Yaski defending the Telangana case before the nation. They turned out be great spoke persons of this region.
Here i am giving the speeches made by one kishore in chaste telangani. poor telangana wala can’t put across their view point through costly ads as andhra wala are doing in local media. Here they attempted to use you tube to put across ther point through MUSI Tv. Quite innovative
speech 1
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speech3
speech 4
It was said that Students lost interest in the Telangan movement as they are concentrating on their careers. One political anaylist,C. Narasinha Rao, was opining in one of TV interview that there is no room for people movements in democracy.I really like to see him where he is hiding face.This is what happens when psychologist turns political anaylist.The very same people not noticed the fact that dormant feeling for separate state of Telangana exists in everybody only that they are waiting for right time.As it is known fact that you can take “Telangani out of Telangana but not Telangana out of Telangani”. It is evident form the many incidents that have happened over a period of past 50 years in India history.
In the contemporary Indian history I can recall two incidents where students were spearheading the people movements. First it was 5 years ago when UPA govt announced that there would be reservations in the post graduation of medical and engineering education.It is understandable that students were directly involving in the movement against reservation as it affects them directly. Primarily students from upper strata of the society have participated In that struggle.
Second is in recent past where students groups under the umbrella of JAC( Joint action Committee) spear headed the Telangana movement. Though it was for a very short time.The kind of maturity they have chosen it commendable. People from all strta of society participated in the movement keeping all the socio,politico differences aside.It is applaudable how they foxed the govt ,particularly when first they announced “Chalo Assembly” programme ,soon seeing police deployment they changed the same agitation name to “Peace Rally”. Telanganis have always been sided with oppressed to fight against the injustice,be it Telangana armed struggle against” Rajakars’ of Kashim rajvi or fighting against some oppressing social groups.
However as always Telangana people inlcuding the students could not manage to put across their point on national political and social scenario quite effectively as they do quite effectively at the state level.They should have used this oppurtunity to put Andhra peoples duplicity before the nation.It is refreshing to see how Mr KT Rao and Madhu Yaski defending the Telangana case before the nation. They turned out be great spoke persons of this region.
Here i am giving the speeches made by one kishore in chaste telangani. poor telangana wala can’t put across their view point through costly ads as andhra wala are doing in local media. Here they attempted to use you tube to put across ther point through MUSI Tv. Quite innovative
speech 1
speech2
speech3
speech 4
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